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		<title>By: Pieter Kat</title>
		<link>http://planyoursafari.com/blog/bones-of-content/#comment-8907</link>
		<dc:creator>Pieter Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andre:

You bring up an important point - the waste that currently happens with wildlife carcasses, especially those of predators like lions involved in problem animal control. In Botswana, the skin and the skull of a problem animal should by by law be turned in to the wildlife department as a requirement for compensation for livestock lost. I do not believe Namibia has a government compensation program for livestock preyed on by wild predators? 

Nevertheless, if you are worried about carcasses being left to rot in the veld, I could suggest other business alternatives to the bones being sent to China. These bones have considerable scientific value to museums, high schools, universities, and veterinary schools all over the world. A properly cleaned and mounted skeleton of a lion has commercial value, and I would rather see such bones go to educational and scientific institutions than into a bottle of wine with only some dubious hocus pocus value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andre:</p>
<p>You bring up an important point &#8211; the waste that currently happens with wildlife carcasses, especially those of predators like lions involved in problem animal control. In Botswana, the skin and the skull of a problem animal should by by law be turned in to the wildlife department as a requirement for compensation for livestock lost. I do not believe Namibia has a government compensation program for livestock preyed on by wild predators? </p>
<p>Nevertheless, if you are worried about carcasses being left to rot in the veld, I could suggest other business alternatives to the bones being sent to China. These bones have considerable scientific value to museums, high schools, universities, and veterinary schools all over the world. A properly cleaned and mounted skeleton of a lion has commercial value, and I would rather see such bones go to educational and scientific institutions than into a bottle of wine with only some dubious hocus pocus value.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Knols</title>
		<link>http://planyoursafari.com/blog/bones-of-content/#comment-8905</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Knols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andre,

It would be a bad idea to start selling the bones of dead lions as this will only start to increase the demand, which will eventually lead to the killing of lions. A good example is of course the fate of the rhino and to a lesser extend the situation of the elephant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andre,</p>
<p>It would be a bad idea to start selling the bones of dead lions as this will only start to increase the demand, which will eventually lead to the killing of lions. A good example is of course the fate of the rhino and to a lesser extend the situation of the elephant.</p>
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		<title>By: Andre</title>
		<link>http://planyoursafari.com/blog/bones-of-content/#comment-8881</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,
I agree fully, canned hunting should be well punished. In our country Lions are still wandering in the wild in certain parts and do become problem animals. Cattle are easy pray and these cattle are the income of farmers who try to make a living for their families. I see nothing wrong declaring such lion as a problem animal,this must be done by The Ministry of Nature Conservation and it have to be monitored extremely well.
If this specific Lion is shot what happen to it? The carcass stays in the veld to rot, why not sell the bones and generate a income to minimize financial lost?
What the Chinese do with that does not matter to me because they do eat anything, this is their culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,<br />
I agree fully, canned hunting should be well punished. In our country Lions are still wandering in the wild in certain parts and do become problem animals. Cattle are easy pray and these cattle are the income of farmers who try to make a living for their families. I see nothing wrong declaring such lion as a problem animal,this must be done by The Ministry of Nature Conservation and it have to be monitored extremely well.<br />
If this specific Lion is shot what happen to it? The carcass stays in the veld to rot, why not sell the bones and generate a income to minimize financial lost?<br />
What the Chinese do with that does not matter to me because they do eat anything, this is their culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Bones of Content &#171; Bush Warriors: Stop Poaching and Bushmeat</title>
		<link>http://planyoursafari.com/blog/bones-of-content/#comment-6600</link>
		<dc:creator>Bones of Content &#171; Bush Warriors: Stop Poaching and Bushmeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bart</title>
		<link>http://planyoursafari.com/blog/bones-of-content/#comment-6416</link>
		<dc:creator>bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 12:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Johan,

You&#039;re right, they eat anything with four legs, except the table perhaps...

B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Johan,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, they eat anything with four legs, except the table perhaps&#8230;</p>
<p>B</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Knols</title>
		<link>http://planyoursafari.com/blog/bones-of-content/#comment-6410</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Knols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hari,

You are correct. Unfortunately it seems that the Chinese eat anything that moves. It takes a long time to get that out of a culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hari,</p>
<p>You are correct. Unfortunately it seems that the Chinese eat anything that moves. It takes a long time to get that out of a culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Hari</title>
		<link>http://planyoursafari.com/blog/bones-of-content/#comment-6396</link>
		<dc:creator>Hari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 02:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chinese Government has to take a stronger responsibility in educating and creating an awareness inside their own country.  Wanting to become a global super-power comes with responsibility.  Something they ought to take seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese Government has to take a stronger responsibility in educating and creating an awareness inside their own country.  Wanting to become a global super-power comes with responsibility.  Something they ought to take seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Pieter Kat</title>
		<link>http://planyoursafari.com/blog/bones-of-content/#comment-6381</link>
		<dc:creator>Pieter Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Simone, and thanks for providing the original idea for this post.

Ken is right in saying the substitution of lion bones for those of a tiger is old news. I believe what is not old news is the increasing prices offered and the resultant consequences we must be aware of and vigilant against. On the market, how much is a kilo of elepehant ivory worth these days? And are lion bones worth that much less? We all know and can predict what will happen when the commercial value of animal parts rises - exploiters will get interested and organized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Simone, and thanks for providing the original idea for this post.</p>
<p>Ken is right in saying the substitution of lion bones for those of a tiger is old news. I believe what is not old news is the increasing prices offered and the resultant consequences we must be aware of and vigilant against. On the market, how much is a kilo of elepehant ivory worth these days? And are lion bones worth that much less? We all know and can predict what will happen when the commercial value of animal parts rises &#8211; exploiters will get interested and organized.</p>
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		<title>By: Simone</title>
		<link>http://planyoursafari.com/blog/bones-of-content/#comment-6375</link>
		<dc:creator>Simone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pieter,

Great article and very well written. 

In contrary of Ken who seems to already know all of this, I was quiet disturbed by the news. Thing is, by allowing this, the market is wide open. I think it is naïf to assume it will remain with &quot;only&quot; canned hunting lions. I have been in China many times and I know that it is more prestigious to obtain parts of in wild living creatures. The very one reason the tiger is vanishing that rapidly. So very soon this line will be crossed. 

What disturbs me in the thinking of Ken (or at least that&#039;s my feeling reading his comment) it is almost like he is saying &quot;it is only canned hunting lions&quot;. I taste a kind of acception of this industry. To me, canned hunting is unethical and we should do whatever we can to tackle it. Lots of African NGO&#039;s are trying to stop this sickening business. But now, with another goldmine in bones, the question is if it will ever stop. Money talks......

So I don&#039;t agree with Ken. If you give people options, there will always be a market. That&#039;s people. The only thing that can stop them/us is laws, fines, punishment etc. If you don&#039;t draw a line somewhere, who knows what the outcome will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pieter,</p>
<p>Great article and very well written. </p>
<p>In contrary of Ken who seems to already know all of this, I was quiet disturbed by the news. Thing is, by allowing this, the market is wide open. I think it is naïf to assume it will remain with &#8220;only&#8221; canned hunting lions. I have been in China many times and I know that it is more prestigious to obtain parts of in wild living creatures. The very one reason the tiger is vanishing that rapidly. So very soon this line will be crossed. </p>
<p>What disturbs me in the thinking of Ken (or at least that&#8217;s my feeling reading his comment) it is almost like he is saying &#8220;it is only canned hunting lions&#8221;. I taste a kind of acception of this industry. To me, canned hunting is unethical and we should do whatever we can to tackle it. Lots of African NGO&#8217;s are trying to stop this sickening business. But now, with another goldmine in bones, the question is if it will ever stop. Money talks&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t agree with Ken. If you give people options, there will always be a market. That&#8217;s people. The only thing that can stop them/us is laws, fines, punishment etc. If you don&#8217;t draw a line somewhere, who knows what the outcome will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Watkins</title>
		<link>http://planyoursafari.com/blog/bones-of-content/#comment-6369</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 11:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of this is quite old news to me especially the substitution of Lion for Tiger. I think we all know that Tiger is in short supply nowadays.

Whilst I do not approve of hunting of any sort, let alone canned, if the income can be increased by the sale of these otherwise useless parts why should it not be done. Let&#039;s face it there is no way that Chinese traditional medicines will end people have disgusting practices the world over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of this is quite old news to me especially the substitution of Lion for Tiger. I think we all know that Tiger is in short supply nowadays.</p>
<p>Whilst I do not approve of hunting of any sort, let alone canned, if the income can be increased by the sale of these otherwise useless parts why should it not be done. Let&#8217;s face it there is no way that Chinese traditional medicines will end people have disgusting practices the world over!</p>
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